tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35578975.post1435419636123830123..comments2024-03-16T06:57:34.250-04:00Comments on Bong Mom's CookBook: Lijjat Papad -- Karram KurramBong Momhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15407918137263251235noreply@blogger.comBlogger34125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35578975.post-87082370211978937402009-03-20T17:33:00.000-04:002009-03-20T17:33:00.000-04:00I get your point, I agree there is a stereotyping ...I get your point, I agree there is a stereotyping thereBong Momhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15407918137263251235noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35578975.post-42474118002696154732009-03-19T12:44:00.000-04:002009-03-19T12:44:00.000-04:00Sandeepa, I don't have an argument with exercising...Sandeepa, I don't have an argument with exercising the choices that one has, be that man or woman. I do have a problem when you say that men don't have as much choice as women. In fact they do.<BR/><BR/>Here again women who have that choice and are forced into that choice either because of steretypes which suggest men are not made to be care givers or women themselves out of guilt. You are calling it privilege I would call it duty. <BR/><BR/>I would say choice will be more or equal for women only when the spouses deciding who is going to be the primary caregiver can decide the outcome on the toss of a coin. <BR/><BR/>Men it seems to me conveniently take advantage of the stereotypes and women suffer by it.indosungodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11556193051268397994noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35578975.post-20542277289072123932009-03-19T09:23:00.000-04:002009-03-19T09:23:00.000-04:00IndoAnd let me correct myself when I say "choice" ...Indo<BR/><BR/>And let me correct myself when I say "choice" -- it is only limited to "working outside home" or "not working outside home"<BR/><BR/>I am not talking about choices regarding anything else here.<BR/><BR/>SandeepaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35578975.post-75355603257993843902009-03-19T09:20:00.000-04:002009-03-19T09:20:00.000-04:00NirmalaDon't feel bad. You did bond with them for ...Nirmala<BR/><BR/>Don't feel bad. You did bond with them for 7 years. And as long as they have one parent, grand parent or some family to talk to it should be fine.<BR/><BR/>SandeepaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35578975.post-21797697623876684952009-03-19T09:17:00.000-04:002009-03-19T09:17:00.000-04:00Indo I do agree with your view. As I said to Sia, ...Indo <BR/><BR/>I do agree with your view. As I said to Sia, I see that women in the lower socio-economic strata of the society have no choice and most of the time have to work to eke out a living. Like say the girl who helps my Mom with housework in India, her husband is an alcoholic and doesn't work, it is totally her responsibility to make a living, educate he sons etc. Same is the case with many, many more women who are semi-literate and from a lower income section.<BR/><BR/>In the mid level socio-economic strata as I see it, the women have more choices. Inspite of their education many women do not work to their full potential or sometimes do not work at all. It is a choice that they make independently or jointly with their spouses. I have not seen many men exercising that choice. <BR/><BR/>One reason could obviously be because a Mother is supposed to be the primary care giver, by default she gets the privilege to choose being at home with the children<BR/><BR/>But I have not seen many women (unless they are very successful in their own career) comfortable with the idea that their husband gives up the job and stays with the kids instead of them.Either they don't trust them with it or don't want to let go of the enjoyment that comes with parenting.<BR/>And that is why I think men at these level do not have that choice, how they would exercise it is a different discussion<BR/><BR/>Again there are always exceptions.<BR/><BR/>Would love to hear your point of view, no war here :D<BR/><BR/><B>Sandeepa</B>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35578975.post-24411578432062343642009-03-19T08:08:00.000-04:002009-03-19T08:08:00.000-04:00Sorry Sandeepa, I have to disagree. In my mind men...Sorry Sandeepa, I have to disagree. In my mind men have more choice or equal choice as women do. It feels good to say we made the choice instead of the choice being forced upon us.<BR/><BR/>But in the end it all comes down to economics. Some women do have to work some don't in the same vein some men absolutely have to some don't and it is easy because they are not expected to not work. <BR/><BR/>I just don't want to take away the hardships faced by a lot of women because a few have a choice. <BR/><BR/>Peace!indosungodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11556193051268397994noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35578975.post-45172507327294923072009-03-19T04:46:00.000-04:002009-03-19T04:46:00.000-04:00I adore those women behind Lijjat pappad. U have c...I adore those women behind Lijjat pappad. U have created lotsa thought waves by this post Sandeepa. I was enjoying otherhood for the past 7 years by choosing a low profile job. But when I took up a better role still I long fo the old days wherein I can spend more time with my kids. Sometimes I need to reach home late and get back to office early and it would be two full days that I owuld not talk to my kids. I sometimes very much hate this life.Nirmalahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06208705843959737265noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35578975.post-49600844834876266572009-03-18T16:29:00.000-04:002009-03-18T16:29:00.000-04:00My pantry is always stocked with lijjat papad. I l...My pantry is always stocked with lijjat papad. I love it !!Shivapriyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04794021258714095919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35578975.post-18520590285082388552009-03-18T13:20:00.000-04:002009-03-18T13:20:00.000-04:00Sandeepa,thats a one real,empowering story and th...Sandeepa,<BR/>thats a one real,empowering story and thanks for sharing it with us ...<BR/>My lil one loves papads...ma amaar papod chayi and thokhon kicho bola jaye bolo !!<BR/>arey! that was a very famous ad..<BR/>karram- kurram , mazedar, lazzeddar , swad swad mein lizzat-2 papad !! very funny with that bunny!!<BR/>very well written about these women , quite right there , we have some choice and there are many who doesn't ....i think freedom and oppurtunity comes pricy sometimes....many sacrifices and adjustment also ...God knows how much opposition these women must have faced when they started out 50 years back ....but they didn't give up ..and thats the spirit is, all we need ...never give up!!<BR/>hugs and smilesJaya Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15474786799687276472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35578975.post-89329433931697267002009-03-18T12:44:00.000-04:002009-03-18T12:44:00.000-04:00Lijjat papad is one that never disappoints when mi...Lijjat papad is one that never disappoints when microwaved... I always have a pack handy. <BR/><BR/>Btw, just read your Mommy of 2 series - love it :)Laavanyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11778057550064849231noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35578975.post-53078382519986761312009-03-18T08:13:00.000-04:002009-03-18T08:13:00.000-04:00BWMI guess in some terms we are luckier than the m...BWM<BR/><BR/>I guess in some terms we are luckier than the men tooBong Momhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15407918137263251235noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35578975.post-51934100231626050652009-03-18T08:12:00.000-04:002009-03-18T08:12:00.000-04:00Srakarram Kurram implies crunchy, doesn't really m...Sra<BR/><BR/>karram Kurram implies crunchy, doesn't really mean anything. It is from this Lijjat ad with the Bunny aired on DoorDarshan<BR/><BR/>Sia<BR/><BR/>It is not about success. <BR/>Just that educated women at a higher socio-economic strata have more choices regarding work outside home or not compared to semi-literate women at the lower socio-economic strata. If you see, these women are anyway forced to work to eke out a living but are not really independent when it comes to other areas<BR/><BR/>Indo<BR/>I am sure many men do that and stay at home dads are not uncommon either. I am just saying on a larger scale women are more comfortable with their choice of taking a larger role in parenting and sacrificing career for the same. And they also have the choice to do so.<BR/>Very few men get that choice.Bong Momhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15407918137263251235noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35578975.post-35235604858356348532009-03-18T05:53:00.000-04:002009-03-18T05:53:00.000-04:00kudos to mahila gram udyog and their determination...kudos to mahila gram udyog and their determination! <BR/>it's hard to measure one's success. for some it may be money and power and for other it might be happinees and peace of mind! i earn almost same as K but funnily enough it's the money i earn from ads from blogging that makes me really happy. call me weird or silly but i am most happy person on this planet when i donate that money to charity :) <BR/>and coming bk to Lijjat papad, i have very fond memory of it. be it crunching those papads or the ads showed in doordarshan days with bunny puppets :) nostalgia...Siahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04874841151742437150noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35578975.post-72569226492820051132009-03-17T11:01:00.000-04:002009-03-17T11:01:00.000-04:00i must admit, i like the fried version better. my ...i must admit, i like the fried version better. my mom used to some nifty stuff in the microwave where she would half cook the lijjat papad, form it into a cone, cook it some more, and then stuff it with chopped up onions, green mangoes and stuff.beehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18128812845273224940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35578975.post-52760711400150340242009-03-17T09:42:00.000-04:002009-03-17T09:42:00.000-04:00Lijjat is the stuff inspirational stories are made...Lijjat is the stuff inspirational stories are made of.<BR/>Have you tried semi frying papad by smearing a few drops of oil on either/both sides, then cooking it in the MW? Nice!delhibellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13457393393138391936noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35578975.post-64822081002342807272009-03-17T07:54:00.000-04:002009-03-17T07:54:00.000-04:00I do not like spicy papad with all that salt ... b...I do not like spicy papad with all that salt ... but biyer pore have got to know about some great dishes cooked with papad. :-)Sharmilahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00127150814881096573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35578975.post-29432505695546833732009-03-17T04:59:00.000-04:002009-03-17T04:59:00.000-04:00Karrram... Kurraam...Kurrram Karraam....Please do ...Karrram... Kurraam...Kurrram Karraam....Please do not forget the following hnooo hnooo hnoo by the Bugs Bunny.<BR/><BR/>I like Papad in all shapes, sizes,taste and avtaars.... fried, roasted on direct flame or in microwave.<BR/><BR/>So kudos to Mahila Griha Udyog.<BR/><BR/>On being able to exercise a choice, definitely we are lucky. <BR/><BR/>Forget that, I am lucky that I was allowed to be born, lucky that I was not drowned in milk in greed for a male child, lucky for being born in a girls only household and that too in Urban West Bengal, where gender discrimination is perceptibly lower than that in most of the other states. I was lucky to have been born to parents who always believed they were blessed with two daughters.... <BR/><BR/>I have a son, who I intend to bring up as a human being and not as a boy child. Hence, he knows unlike in friends' houses, he has to do some chores, which his parents are regularly doing.BongHomeChefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04709497824813140021noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35578975.post-87235172915271110142009-03-17T01:38:00.000-04:002009-03-17T01:38:00.000-04:00lovely post sandeepa.i used to travel to bangkok p...lovely post sandeepa.<BR/><BR/>i used to travel to bangkok pretty often on work and being a hardcore veggie (no eggs too) i would be ravenous by the end of the day. we'd troop to this desi restaurant (called rang mahal i think) in one of the hotels and i'd find it tough to even wait for the guys to bring our orders, their service was incredibly slow. so papads with coriander chutney would be devoured - in seconds the whole plate would be clean!<BR/><BR/>and yay to the lijjat women!Choxboxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03741540918529448553noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35578975.post-89156230135057048552009-03-17T01:05:00.000-04:002009-03-17T01:05:00.000-04:00What is Karram Kurram? Somehow papad is one item t...What is Karram Kurram? Somehow papad is one item that never made an appearance in our home, and still doesn't. I do like the supersize papads we get at the Trade Fair, which are smeared with red chilli powder.srahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03243944393796831559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35578975.post-69373930393739152342009-03-17T00:40:00.000-04:002009-03-17T00:40:00.000-04:00I agree - it doesn't matter what a woman chooses t...I agree - it doesn't matter what a woman chooses to do, its the fact that she has the choice to do what she wants!<BR/><BR/>I simply love the paapad when it is liberally strewn with chopped tomatoes and onions, coriander leaves and a dash of chaat masala!Mirihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13676408925598600874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35578975.post-28050605802739652622009-03-16T23:25:00.000-04:002009-03-16T23:25:00.000-04:00nice post...:)nice post...:)notyet100https://www.blogger.com/profile/12079779480407514805noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35578975.post-44094025958711843132009-03-16T16:38:00.000-04:002009-03-16T16:38:00.000-04:00Lovely story, Sandeepa. Soma, I think my husband h...Lovely story, Sandeepa. <BR/><BR/>Soma, I think my husband has chanced on a papad diet, too! It's his snack/starter of choice these days.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35578975.post-83186270713236133352009-03-16T16:33:00.001-04:002009-03-16T16:33:00.001-04:00Yes, those ladies are very admirable indeed :-)And...Yes, those ladies are very admirable indeed :-)<BR/><BR/>And yes again, we are indeed lucky to be able to make that choice,I gave up working to look after R and A... completely my own choice...wouldn't have had it any other way.sunitahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09176577177334401747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35578975.post-46355147021414022112009-03-16T16:33:00.000-04:002009-03-16T16:33:00.000-04:00That is an interesting back story - I didn't know ...That is an interesting back story - I didn't know the papad forged into a women's empowerment movement.Annhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13989340321224075830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35578975.post-76490015079278376582009-03-16T16:31:00.000-04:002009-03-16T16:31:00.000-04:00I did not know that Lijjat Papad was that old. Wha...I did not know that Lijjat Papad was that old. What a great story. Also looked at Soma's comment on Lijjat diet, popping Lijjat pappad in place of potato chips to satisfy those hunger pangs seems like a great idea. When DD was little DH found a project that he could work on a flexible schedule to spend more time with her. But yup we are lucky to have that choice.indosungodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11556193051268397994noreply@blogger.com